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  Here's another JW / JW adjacent in the national news

  by La Capra in

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  i saw this story on a national news broadcast and said to myself, "hey, that's the same ian rogers that was in my congregation.".

  i tracked down a local article to confirm it was the same person, even though i recognized him immediately and he looks just like his dad did 35 years ago (except for the hair color).. https://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/mother-of-napa-garage-owner-ian-rogers-describes-gun-collecting-right-wing-views-in-years/article_9c823a90-6cd2-5c54-9f76-26203b17fe31.html.

  things the congregation leadership did to his mom during those mid-80s years were elemental to my disassociation in 1987--i wrote them down on paper as i was sorting out my decision..

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  Biahi,

  Since the article says her name, I am declining to disclose what happened. It was appalling and mortifying that it "got out" and spread through the community. If she could be embarrassed like that, any woman in the congregation could. It was the last thing I ever wanted to happen to me. And she had no control over it-not what was done to her (not by her), or that she was the one disciplined, rather than the doer, or that everyone found out.

  I felt a lot of compassion for her. She was probably the last person I ever did service time with before I quit. (I actually had already made my decision and was waiting for a certain event to pass before I went public.)

  She later left, or was disfellowshipped, or something. I am not exactly sure, because I had already left. But I had some non JW related contact with her during the few years immediately after I left.

  That was when she doing normal non-JW things that would have gotten her marked at a minimum. It was nothing sinful or even questionable-just career related endeavors. But this was the late 1980's in the wine country, when, special needs talk or no, members were marking each other (and talking about it) if they "heard" you were letting your kids watch MTV.

  If she is in regular contact with her son, who is definitely not JWing, maybe that means she never completely returned to the fold.

  She was always very kind, sincere, and real with me. I hope she is OK.
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  Here's another JW / JW adjacent in the national news

  by La Capra in

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  i saw this story on a national news broadcast and said to myself, "hey, that's the same ian rogers that was in my congregation.".

  i tracked down a local article to confirm it was the same person, even though i recognized him immediately and he looks just like his dad did 35 years ago (except for the hair color).. https://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/mother-of-napa-garage-owner-ian-rogers-describes-gun-collecting-right-wing-views-in-years/article_9c823a90-6cd2-5c54-9f76-26203b17fe31.html.

  things the congregation leadership did to his mom during those mid-80s years were elemental to my disassociation in 1987--i wrote them down on paper as i was sorting out my decision..

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  I saw this story on a national news broadcast and said to myself, "hey, that's the same Ian Rogers that was in my congregation."

  I tracked down a local article to confirm it was the same person, even though I recognized him immediately and he looks just like his dad did 35 years ago (except for the hair color).

  https://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/mother-of-napa-garage-owner-ian-rogers-describes-gun-collecting-right-wing-views-in-years/article_9c823a90-6cd2-5c54-9f76-26203b17fe31.html

  Things the congregation leadership did to his mom during those mid-80s years were elemental to my disassociation in 1987--I wrote them down on paper as I was sorting out my decision.
  
  
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  So the elders gave my 19 year old daughter a shepharding call depression ensues!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  against our wishes she got baptised at 16 because she got brainwashed by her cousin.

  the last year or so she hasn't been so gung ho about the "truth".

  anyway the elders came down on her for not getting her time in the last couple months because she absolutely hates zoom letter writing.

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  The Elduh's told her she need a 5 year plan to pioneer, learn a foreign language and or serve where the need is great.
  

  This is excellent news: even the "elduhs" don't think the "end" is near. She's got at least 4.5 years to do what she wants and then she can still "repent" and survive armageddon.

  Wasn't there a time the jws said a "five year plan" was worldly and unnecessary?
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  Craziest thing you ever saw in a KH?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i did this in my facebook group for my podcast and it was fun.. so what's the craziest thing you ever saw?.

  for me it was watching a brother have a heart attack during the meeting in the auditorium.

  i was a kid and noticed him shaking and acting strange.

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  There are a lot of incidents I remember from my childhood, funny, shocking, scary, etc. But this one stands out:

  Every year the two congregations that used the building would swap meeting schedules. Everyone preferred morning Sunday meetings to afternoon Sunday meetings. Everyone preferred Thursday night TMS and SM to Wednesday night TMS and SM.

  When I was in junior high, the other congregation passed a motion to keep the same meeting schedule indefinitely (while they were on Sunday morning/Thursday night), and our congregation was presented with the same motion-while we had Sunday afternoon/Tuesday night.

  That elder who was in charge of exacting our concession to the sucky schedule took the first vote-it failed. Took a second vote, it failed. He then put us into a five minute prayer about why we needed to approve the motion. Took a third vote, pretended to count, and announced it passed. It clearly had not.

  When I finally left 6 years later, we still had that horrible schedule, except I think we switched to Monday night Book Study and Wednesday night TMS and SM. This was long before they dropped Book Study and slashed the long evening meeting.

  I have always wondered why is was so important for 1. the congregations to stop swapping the schedule, and 2. the other congregation HAD to have the preferred meeting times. Who really made that call and why?
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  The New World's first Convention... - LMAO

  by tresdecu in

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  this was sent to me by a cooky uber-dub.

  apparently it's making the rounds locally...it's typical lighthearted jw satire (that they think is great!!

  smh :-/ ) .

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  What, no Drama?
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  New Jobs Coming? Where Have You Worked at?

  by 1234 in

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  with many people's jobs been put and "on hold" and other people's jobs going away for good, i couldn't help but think about all the different jobs i've had over the years.

  i have been able to adapt and make do.

  maybe this will kick in again....or maybe not.

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  I did filing for a small office

  helped reconcile books with a propane delivery service before bookkeeping software was prevalent in the 1980s

  I ran digitized (paper tape code, no digital memor yet) embroidery machines producing what we now call swag

  retail work in the children's department at a large national chain (worst. job. ever.)

  high school math teacher

  high school foods/nutrition teacher

  law clerk

  lawyer

  real estate agent

  I'm still employed and not needing to look for work and won't need to in the foreseeable future. I am grateful and feel blessed.
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  What star sign is more prone to becoming an apostate ?

  by Chook in

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  i really think time of birth influence behaviour..

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  Duh, it's in the name: Capricorn, the Goat.
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  Now that JWs know there is a pedophile problem...

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... will they take it upon themselves to warn their bible studies of pedophile activity in the congregations so they can protect their children, or will the cycle of abuse continue with the attitude of letting new ones take their chances along with the rest of us?.

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  This one defies all reason and logic. Is Sister Unevenly Yoked supposed to go with her 12-year-old-son into the men's restroom? Or is that the price she (and her son) pay for her marriage to a non-witness.

  Now let's include all the single (for all the usual reasons) parents of children of the opposite gender who now have to deal with this situation.

  Did they start building "family restrooms" at their facilities?
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  Famous Movie Quotes You Like

  by The Bethelite in

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  the last lines from the movie platoon.

  "i think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy, we fought ourselves, and the enemy was in us.

  the war is over for me now, but it will always be there, the rest of my days.

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  Among other great lines, from Shawshank Redemption, I have always loved this little monologue by Sean Astin in Goonies:

  Don't you realize?

  The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town.

  The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school.

  Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us.

  But right now, they got to do what's right for them.

  Because it's their time. Their time! Up there!

  Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here.

  That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket.
  
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  JWs Changing "Baptism Questions" Effective May 13?

  by Room 215 in

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  Jesus Christ. Check.

  Jehovah. Check.

  No mention of God at all.

  Makes perfect sense to me. Never felt any connection to God with those guys.